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  1. A Reddit thread discussing preferred local Large Language Model (LLM) setups for tasks like summarizing text, coding, and general use. Users share their model choices (Gemma, Qwen, Phi, etc.) and frameworks (llama.cpp, Ollama, EXUI) along with potential issues and configurations.

    Model Use Cases Size (Parameters) Approx. VRAM (Q4 Quantization) Approx. RAM (Q4) Notes/Requirements
    Gemma 3 (Meta) Summarization, conversational tasks, image recognition, translation, simple writing 3B, 4B, 7B, 8B, 12B, 27B+ 2-4GB (3B), 4-6GB (7B), 8-12GB (12B) 4-8GB (3B), 8-12GB (7B), 16-24GB (12B) Excellent performance for its size. Recent versions have had memory leak issues (see Reddit post – use Ollama 0.6.6 or later, but even that may not be fully fixed). QAT versions are highly recommended.
    Qwen 2.5 (Alibaba) Summarization, coding, reasoning, decision-making, technical material processing 3.5B, 7B, 72B 2-3GB (3.5B), 4-6GB (7B), 26-30GB (72B) 4-6GB (3.5B), 8-12GB (7B), 50-60GB (72B) Qwen models are known for strong performance. Coder versions specifically tuned for code generation.
    Qwen3 (Alibaba - upcoming) General purpose, likely similar to Qwen 2.5 with improvements 70B Estimated 25-30GB (Q4) 50-60GB Expected to be a strong competitor.
    Llama 3 (Meta) General purpose, conversation, writing, coding, reasoning 8B, 13B, 70B+ 4-6GB (8B), 7-9GB (13B), 25-30GB (70B) 8-12GB (8B), 14-18GB (13B), 50-60GB (70B) Current state-of-the-art open-source model. Excellent balance of performance and size.
    YiXin (01.AI) Reasoning, brainstorming 72B ~26-30GB (Q4) ~50-60GB A powerful model focused on reasoning and understanding. Similar VRAM requirements to Qwen 72B.
    Phi-4 (Microsoft) General purpose, writing, coding 14B ~7-9GB (Q4) 14-18GB Smaller model, good for resource-constrained environments, but may not match larger models in complexity.
    Ling-Lite RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation), fast processing, text extraction Variable Varies with size Varies with size MoE (Mixture of Experts) model known for speed. Good for RAG applications where quick responses are important.

    Key Considerations:

    • Quantization: The VRAM and RAM estimates above are based on 4-bit quantization (Q4). Lower quantization (e.g., Q2) will reduce memory usage further, but may impact quality. Higher quantization (e.g., Q8, FP16) will increase quality but require significantly more memory.
    • Frameworks: Popular frameworks for running these models locally include:
      • llama.cpp: Highly optimized for CPU and GPU, especially on Apple Silicon.
      • Ollama: Simplified setup and management of LLMs. (Be aware of the Gemma 3 memory leak issue!)
      • Text Generation WebUI (oobabooga): Web-based interface with many features and customization options.
    • Hardware: A dedicated GPU with sufficient VRAM is highly recommended for decent performance. CPU-only inference is possible but can be slow. More RAM is generally better, even if the model fits in VRAM.
    • Context Length: The "40k" context mentioned in the Reddit post refers to the maximum number of tokens (words or sub-words) the model can process at once. Longer context lengths require more memory.
  2. The author tests the new GPT-4o AI from OpenAI on a standard set of coding tests and finds that it delivers good results, but with one surprising issue.

    2024-05-28 Tags: , , , , , , by klotz

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